Moments when a piece of entertainment completely lost you.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:53 pm

So I'm a big fan of the Punisher comics, especially the MAX label. I'm firmly in the camp that Garth Ennis and the Punisher are a match made in heaven. Furthermore, Punisher being pretty much a story about a vigilante who mows down street-level criminals by the dozens with guns and does this repeatedly, I'm willing to suspend my belief over the fact that the world the Punisher operates in has its shittiness cranked up beyond that of even hellholes like Somalia.

That said, the story arc Naked Kills strained my WSoD way, waaaay too much.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:15 am

I need to find more of those... I only got up to #60....

However, I will once again put forth that Ennis needs to be given a title that is nothing but Nick Fury hitting people with his belt and verbally abusing them.

Severian · Post by **Severian** » Sat Nov 13, 2010 7:52 pm

The ending to Saw. Dumbest attempt at a shocking twist I've ever seen.

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:16 am

Glee sucks.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:11 pm

Severian, I strongly recommend watching confusedmatthew's 30-minute video review of Saw. Now confusedmatthew is extremely hit-or-miss, especially when he decides to heavily criticize movies that aren't universally panned (like 2001 or Minority Report) but I found his skewering of that movie to be dead-on.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:00 pm

That said, Minority Report does indeed really really suck. I mean, it's not going to win any 'worst movies of all time' awards, but neither is Saw and I consider MR to be slightly worse than that movie.

Josh_Kablack · Post by **Josh_Kablack** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:02 pm

You know, it took several months for it to sink in, but the last season of Lost totally fucking ruined it. Goddamnit, the first 5 seasons are all about how everyone is connected, nothing is what it seems, everyone has their reasons, and the fallaciousness of us-vs-them thinking. In the final season it becomes just another "good vs evil" struggle with unexplained supernatural elements and glowing rocks.

For anyone watching the series, you should probably stop at the point in the final season where Charlie wakes Desmond up - that's the last neat idea they have, and you can write your own better ending from there. I recommend Hurley pulling Ben's mask off to reveal he's been Christian Sheppard all along, while Ben/Christian laments "And I would have gotten away with it all if it wasn't for you darn kids" - that's seriously a more satisfying conclusion to the whole thing.

Bucket Head · Post by **Bucket Head** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 8:04 pm

Lago PARANOIA wrote:So I'm a big fan of the Punisher comics, especially the MAX label.

I'm a big fan of Garth Ennis' punisher as well; in addition to the way the Punisher views things, I like it for the fact that it's way more down to earth than a lot of superhero comic books. I don't like stuff that's too supernatural or too fantastic, but I do like the (anti) heroics that the Punisher goes though.

Of course, some of it doesn't seem to like following that; Season 2 comes to mind, but I don't really follow what I don't like.

Blicero · Post by **Blicero** » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:44 pm

Lago PARANOIA wrote:That said, Minority Report does indeed really really suck. I mean, it's not going to win any 'worst movies of all time' awards, but neither is Saw and I consider MR to be slightly worse than that movie.

I legitimately liked Minority Report. It's one of the only Tom Cruise movies where I can say that with a straight face. It's certainly not perfect, but I would hesitate before labeling it with such extreme suckitude as you do.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:47 am

One of the things I don't like about the Punisher, or rather the fandom, is how creepy some of the fans get. Like rather than getting 'normal' enjoyment out of criminal #128 getting his face blasted open with a shotgun while Frank bets out a grim one-liner, these fans get waaaaay into the moment and moralizing. Like if you read The Slavers they get extremely creepy about how much they enjoyed some very horrible people getting tortured to death.

Not to say that the comic is perfect or anything. Like I said, Naked Kills is so grimdark as to be retarded. Both of the Punisher 2008 and 2009 Christmas specials were stupid; they were just ginormous wastes of time. The only reason why people read the Punisher is:

A) For the ultraviolence.

B) To watch secondary charactrs get a surprising amount of depth or at least characterization, only to meet the fate of A.

A Punisher story that does not have these two elements suck. Granted, a lot of Punisher stories suck even with these two elements in abundance. Man of Stone and Up Is Down/Black Is White are awesome. Barracuda is stupid (though the follow-up story was much better). Punisher: The End is stupid. Valley Forge is a great comic and was a perfect way to wrap up the run, but it's like going to McDonalds when you're starving and getting a new pair of kickass shoes instead of food.

Lago PARANOIA · Post by **Lago PARANOIA** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:07 am

Brawl in the Family's 'Ode to Minions' was one of the most unintentionally obnoxious things I've read in my life.

Cynic · Post by **Cynic** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:25 am

Edit: made this in the wrong entertainment topic.

Severian · Post by **Severian** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:02 pm

Lago PARANOIA wrote:That said, Minority Report does indeed really really suck. I mean, it's not going to win any 'worst movies of all time' awards, but neither is Saw and I consider MR to be slightly worse than that movie.

I saw the reviews. I think he comes off as whiny and a little pretentious but he's p. much on target. Personally I love minority report for all the reasons he hates it.

Psychic Robot · Post by **Psychic Robot** » Tue Dec 07, 2010 11:39 pm

Spawn is terrible. My mom never let me read it as a child, so I figured I would catch up on my childhood as an adult. What a waste. Lots of whining and stupidity everywhere.

Doom · Post by **Doom** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:38 am

The HBO Spawn was pretty good for it's time. The movie? Blarg.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:10 am

See, I actually liked Spawn (the movie, and the comic), but then I was also 12 when I was exposed to both, so...

I still find some enjoyment in the movie, though I will admit it's terrible.

Sashi · Post by **Sashi** » Wed Dec 08, 2010 5:54 am

When the Spawn movie came out, Mad magazine did a spoof of it that ended up being a spoof of the comics, basically ignoring a movie. It was obviously done by someone who had a great love of comics and a great hatred of Spawn.

The best part was when Spawn lost his devil powers, and got repowered by knocking over Venom at the laundromat.

name_here · Post by **name_here** » Thu Dec 09, 2010 3:03 am

I finally got around to watching The Last Airbender. I am disappoint. Also, Azula's actress was chosen or directed poorly. She can't quite carry off the menacing grin.

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 3:03 pm

Stargate Universe is good. It's a good show.

But seriously, there is no reason for this big of a giant fucking case of the dumbs.

So some guy who is the bad guy who they captured walks around being a bad guy, menacing the bad guy who turned good, and then, when he finds out sensitive information about how that good guy is temporarily unable to defend herself, murders her.

The end!

What the fuck! Just lock up the bad guy, instead of letting him wander around the ship doing whatever the hell he wants. And that way, your fucking bullshit plot point where Eli has to lose his girlfriend so that he can get back with the Cloe bitch who is worse for him than the science chick doesn't have to happen, and everyone wins.

But no... We have to let bad guys wander around the ship with a single person guarding them.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 6:36 pm

Yeah, that whole thing was so monumentally stupid that I didn't download subsequent shows. After the guy goes off on a rant about how he is going to do bad things to the defector right in front of the guard they have stationed on him at all times... they let him wander around without an escort so he can kill her? They don't... put him in lockup? Shoot him out an airlock? Shoot him with a gun? Put an extra guard on him? Keep the guard they already have on him? What the fuck?

The Greater Good just involved everyone getting a giant case of the retarded. I genuinely don't know why anyone still follows the Colonel's orders, for example. I would have mutinied a long time ago.

-Username17

Kaelik · Post by **Kaelik** » Sat Dec 11, 2010 7:31 pm

According to the next episode, he apparently killed his guard, and had enough spare time on him to stalk the good guy and kill her before anyone discovered the dead guard/dead guard failed to report in.

No explanation as to why, if he could get the drop on his guard and kill him, he didn't have a gun on hand to resist arrest by shooting everyone. But whatever.

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 8:20 am

Apparently the secret ingredient for the next Iron Chef (or current? I'm not watching I heard about it) is "sugar".

....isn't the secret ingredient supposed to be something you need some creativity to make five courses with? This is like having "butter" or "flour" or "salt" as the ingredient. Hell, even "bacon" would be better, despite the fact that it's still dead easy to make five courses using bacon in each...

Maj · Post by **Maj** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:38 am

I would consider that to be really hard. The secret ingredient isn't just supposed to be in the food. It's supposed to be the star of the food. Also, the challenge will be more difficult if the chefs are required to make savory dishes.

So I would hope that the show would highlight different sugars - coconut, palm, maple, raw cane, honey (?)... And maybe there'll be some creativity in it.

Username17 · Post by **Username17** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 10:58 am

Sugar is a beastly ingredient. You have to make each dish focus on sugar. That means that if you do meat you're going to have to go with like a caramel chicken or sweet lamb or something.

Expect to reach for the cane sugar, because it's more flavorful than granulated sugar. But bottom line: it is damn hard to make a full meal where everything is sugar flavored.

-Username17

Prak · Post by **Prak** » Mon Dec 20, 2010 4:27 pm

This is what I get for never watching tv... forgot the caveat that the ingredient must be the focus of the dish. It's still a bit bizarre, but nowhere near as easy as I thought.